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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations and remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory

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but for new knowledge of the

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supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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[Music]

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained live on beyond

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explanation

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i'm your host lon strickler coming to

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you within a can of shadow historic

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gettysburg pennsylvania thanks for

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we got a lot to talk about tonight

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because it's been a crazy week so uh

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first of all i want to introduce the

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guest tonight of welcome cryptid and

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paranormal investigators amy boo and

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vincent richardson's arcane radio now

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as the head of abel amy's bucket list

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expeditions and the team member of the

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olympic project research team

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amy boo crosses the country speaking

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camping and researching in areas of high

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interest and following up on witness

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reports while looking for evidence of

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bigfoot's existence

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an educator writer and certified

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volunteer naturalist from northeast ohio

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amy co-founded project zoo book a

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collaboration of bigfoot investigators

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working alongside primate zoo keepers

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forest workers archaeologists

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anthropologists university professors

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law of enforcement officials and other

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scientists

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her work with this group earned her a

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dedicated researcher award at the 2018

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international bigfoot conference in

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kennewick washington

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tune in to amy's adventures on her

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webcast while boo yonder streaming on

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beyond explanation

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on youtube and amy is also a member of

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the fans of monsters 14 research team

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now vincent richardson is a long-time

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paranormal investigator enthusiast he is

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currently the associate producer of

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beyond explanation and also

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a research assistant at phantoms and

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monsters so amy and vincent thank you

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for joining me this evening

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thanks for having me yeah thanks for

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having me too

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amy i'm going to start with you tell us

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what you've been into what you've been

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doing some of your research some of what

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tell us what's going on

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well i haven't been on the road too much

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like as far as out of state

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too much this year because of covid you

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canceled but i did get to go out to

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michigan see some friends out at the

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michigan conference

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and i have been out where my favorite

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which is to pennsylvania one of my

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favorite places to go so i live in ohio

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forest a lot and i have a research area

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for lack of a better term i know we all

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say that it kind of sounds funny but it

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is where i do some research

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so i go out there whenever i can

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um i have my audio set up out there

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my cameras and everything um it's

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sightings from other people

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and i first you know i grew up going to

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this particular area it's right near my

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grandpa's hunting cabin

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since then i started you know getting

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interested in bigfoot i used to be an

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then i kind of went on my own and have

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been doing my own thing i am a part of

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the olympic project like you said but i

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still get a lot of reports

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so i go out there i think my you were

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talking about me being an ohio certified

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volunteer naturalist so i do

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because i'm looking for evidence of

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bigfoot taking big witness reports out

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there but i also

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been doing a study with that

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one of my passions and my favorite thing

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about bigfooting is my group called

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project zoo book that you mentioned as

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well with all the scientists and the

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researchers and we're starting to pair

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researchers along with scientists and

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that live around the same area and we

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are talking about you know if bigfoot is

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real and if it is a primate and you know

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that i we were just talking about that i

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don't know if that's true it's just a

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question that i'm interested in

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but if it is then what would they eat

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and where would they sleep and how would

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they survive in that area so

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we we do a lot of research in that way

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so i'm still out there

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another thing i've been working on still

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is my book and i can't remember

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if i was had started that yet the last

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time i was on here lon

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my brain it's gone

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my brain has left the building yeah yeah

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the tom page book yeah so i'm still been

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working on that that's okay

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um and he for people who don't know he

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was a financial backer for both

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peterburn and roger patterson

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uh back in the day

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and uh he unfortunately passed away

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uh was it last year

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this time like the last few years have

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been just crazy haven't they yeah yeah

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maybe last year sometime yeah and then

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but before that he and i had been

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meeting and i was getting all of his

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stories out of him and he had quite

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some good stories so i've been kind of

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hunkering down and really working on

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um i took some time off from it after he

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passed away because it was just kind of

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too sad to do

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but i'm back at it and then um

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i haven't been able to go out to the

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olympic project this year so far just

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with my health and covid restrictions

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and stuff but still involved you know

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um talks and things like that so

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a lot of the olympic project members are

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also in project zoo books so we have a

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lot of crossover there

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and they've been doing some really great

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things again for people who don't know

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they are one of the big things that

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they're doing is studying some ground

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nests that were found out in the olympic

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national forest out in washington state

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and they were found by a logging company

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surveyor the big long story but making

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it short and so they have been doing

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different tests dna tests edna

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um looking for hair samples they found

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there there's been a newer discovery of

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at that

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general site but about

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maybe i think they said like a half a

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mile away i could be wrong about that

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where they found footprints and a

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handprint and all kinds of cool stuff so

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um some of the scientists from

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project zoo book have been

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the site and we're just all doing kinds

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of cool stuff together

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right so that was a really long answer

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well if you asked me that bigfoot was

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real i'd had to tell you yes

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uh i saw something and uh you know

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that's kind of been the catalyst for me

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ever since so uh i'd had to say oh yeah

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they're out there

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i do think they are like i i always say

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that it depends on the day like some

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have to have a really

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really good sighting you know or some

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kind of evidence because that's just how

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my brain is but then when other people

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start talking about their

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sightings

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you know you you talk to somebody like

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you know who lots of people that have

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told me personally their sightings then

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i'm like okay it's real it's real i um

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i just i really want that smoking gun

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okay well

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you it's your turn vincent tell us what

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you've been up to

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i've been up to a lot of uh

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doodling around in the uh paranormal

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cryptid community i've been taking uh

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encounters for the north american dog

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man

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foundation and uh

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i've got a whole gang load of drawings

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if you guys would like to take a look at

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them yeah go ahead and put them up there

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here we are

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so what's that's from dog man

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that's from the north american dog man

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project okay and i've been the forensic

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sketch artist for the region three for

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the past year

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and uh we take a

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a plethora of encounters i mean this one

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right here this is a hyena type now

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they've been seen more of those recently

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yeah let's see

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i wouldn't want to see that

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i i don't want to see any of these

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pretty scary oh that is scary but it's

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really good artwork

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yeah this is actually from a uh

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encounter that um

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this was an eyewitness account and

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in a couple weeks yeah yes sir

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he had an encounter two encounters in

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green county pennsylvania

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yeah

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um we get all sorts of

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different sightings different types uh

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they they don't look the same um

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i don't like the the the dog man term is

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as much i think the upright canine is

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more

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uh suiting for the

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sightings and here's another encounter

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uh gentlemen saw

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this uh creature dragging a small moose

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out of a pond

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yeah

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this was a part of

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what

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a person that said he

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survived the lbl

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massacre this is uh

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this is a sketch from an eyewitness

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uh speak peeping through a woman's

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window

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so

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no thanks

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yeah this is another one from the lbl

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and this is there

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no but lbl is land between the lakes and

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uh kentucky

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um

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it's it's a huge area we've had several

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i've had several upright canine

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sightings there over the years as well

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as bigfoot

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and some stuff i have no idea what they

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were but you know there's a lot of a lot

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of things going on there it's just it's

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a strange weird area

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for sure this is another sketch from the

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same witness account now the the

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massacre i'm talking about uh

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was apparently

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um a family in a rv was uh

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brutally murdered by this creature who

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later

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the army and the police i believe

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this is actually from a personal

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encounter

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that that i had when i was a child

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which

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kind of got me into the whole thing

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i was werewolf obsessed at a young age i

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saw this thing when i was 10 years old

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during the flood of

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93 we had to evacuate our house and we

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stayed with some relatives and uh

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i encountered this thing one uh one

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evening and then again in the morning

343
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that's scary

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yeah some of these are just uh from the

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eyewitness sketches again um

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different accounts different things

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um

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that's kind of modeled after the beast

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this was a encounter

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this was actually seen by a member of

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the nadp

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uh this was what she called the werewolf

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boy

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she saw this uh figure walking down the

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street

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and as they got closer to the individual

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this is uh this is what they what they

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that one was cute

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but yeah so

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those are the uh drawings from the north

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american dog man that's cool interesting

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yeah it's pretty interesting when you

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see some of the sketch of how people

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i guess it's all

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you know all subjective but you know

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it's

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everybody's got their own perspective of

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these type of beings and uh you know

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we've had a bunch of them here in

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pennsylvania for years off and on and uh

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even up in allegheny i mean we had a few

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of them up there uh older ones actually

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uh that hyena stuff yeah i mean and most

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of those are quadrupeds yes

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huh yeah butch and i have um

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we have kind of classified

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the dog man moniker on those quadrupeds

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i mean

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they get all kinds of different looks to

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them i mean you got the uh the hyena

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type and you got the

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uh you got to kind of look have all

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those muscular

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legs and stuff and uh but you know most

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of what people see are the uprights and

386
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these things are huge i mean you know

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they go anywhere from eight to ten foot

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in height and they're you know

389
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you know they're like hollywood

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werewolf

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and uh you know it's pretty amazing what

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people tell you and in fact

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we've had at least one really good

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witness who would work for the uh

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uh the pennsylvania game commission and

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a lot of those guys up there in central

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pennsylvania

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acknowledge it something's going on up

399
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there because just some evidence they've

400
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sensed in things they've seen and um

401
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yeah i mean you know we we kind of get a

402
00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:09,519
report scattered here and there but

403
00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:11,199
there's definitely there's definitely

404
00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:12,959
something going on

405
00:16:16,870 --> 00:16:14,560
throughout the state

406
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absolutely

407
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so

408
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i'm gonna go ahead and start talking

409
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,000
about what's been going on around here

410
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this week well not around here but it's

411
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been reported to us

412
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we um

413
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:30,480
can i say something about that sure i

414
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have to tell you

415
00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:33,600
so we were talking before like i'm

416
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definitely more of a uh

417
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like a

418
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i'm bigfoot like bigfoot's my thing so

419
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that's really what i look at

420
00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:44,320
and i'm definitely more like primate or

421
00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:47,040
a natural creature but man i have been

422
00:16:51,110 --> 00:16:49,440
really interested in these discussions

423
00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,120
with what you guys have been talking

424
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:53,120
about lately there's just so many

425
00:16:55,910 --> 00:16:54,399
different people

426
00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,920
that are seeing them and in the same

427
00:17:01,670 --> 00:16:57,519
area so

428
00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,680
i it takes quite a bit for me to be

429
00:17:04,870 --> 00:17:03,519
really interested in and something

430
00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:04,880
that's that

431
00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,160
kind of

432
00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:08,799
paranormal or or um

433
00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:10,079
or strange

434
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:12,480
strange and i'm like fascinated i can't

435
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:14,160
wait when you guys keep posting all this

436
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,280
stuff so i'm like yay hear more about it

437
00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,280
well you know you're involved with the

438
00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:21,199
group so you know you know what's coming

439
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,280
in and uh you know it all gets posted up

440
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,280
there and for everybody look at us on

441
00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:27,520
the website at cryptidhunters.org oh

442
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:29,600
that's all all those stuff that's posted

443
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:30,559
there

444
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,360
is from the fans monsters 14 research

445
00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:35,280
team um

446
00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:36,320
but

447
00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,760
you know um

448
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:39,679
you know this is one thing about the the

449
00:17:44,470 --> 00:17:41,919
dog man upright canine

450
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:44,480
phenomena that i i think there very well

451
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:46,640
may be some some connections with

452
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:49,360
bigfoot because i think some people do

453
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:52,080
kind of misidentify what they're seeing

454
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:53,840
uh you know it very well could be a

455
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,720
bigfoot or you know vice versa and

456
00:18:00,310 --> 00:17:58,080
absolutely

457
00:18:01,909 --> 00:18:00,320
you know i i've had some descriptions of

458
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:01,919
things that could have been a lot of

459
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:05,039
different things and uh you know

460
00:18:08,549 --> 00:18:06,640
so uh you know you kind of take it with

461
00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:08,559
a grain of salt but you know when you

462
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:10,240
people report this stuff to it you kind

463
00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:12,320
of obligate to look into it and give

464
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:13,679
them the benefit of doubt and then you

465
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,919
know but you uh

466
00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:18,320
you know if you um

467
00:18:21,110 --> 00:18:20,240
figure something out or

468
00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:21,120
you know

469
00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:23,200
kind of

470
00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:24,480
something different than what they

471
00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,480
stated and you know then you make your

472
00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:28,559
opinion known on it but

473
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:30,240
you know we try to go as best we can

474
00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:32,400
with the witness and you know

475
00:18:37,430 --> 00:18:35,840
that being said um

476
00:18:38,630 --> 00:18:37,440
some of the stuff that's been going on

477
00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:38,640
out of here

478
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:40,240
particularly i mean in around the

479
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:42,160
chicago area for the last four or five

480
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,200
years

481
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,360
but particularly around o'hara

482
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and uh

483
00:18:51,430 --> 00:18:49,039
for the most part

484
00:18:55,029 --> 00:18:51,440
around the um

485
00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:55,039
the western cargo areas of the of the

486
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:57,440
airport and

487
00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,919
for those who know the airport

488
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:02,640
that's a specific area and kind of a

489
00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,840
unique area because there is a cemetery

490
00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:07,919
in o'hara

491
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:10,320
it's not a big cemetery it's uh it's an

492
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:12,240
old cemetery but it's been there you

493
00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:13,760
know it's been there since they built

494
00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:15,200
the airport

495
00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,360
and a lot of these sightings have been

496
00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:20,080
concentrated within

497
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100 200 yards of this cemetery

498
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,320
now we did have a ufo sighting above the

499
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cemetery last year

500
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where

501
00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:31,919
the witness actually saw a humanoid of

502
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:35,120
some type ascend up from the graveyard

503
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:38,640
cemetery up into the ufo

504
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:40,799
and there have been other strange

505
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:42,480
sightings of small

506
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:46,080
humanoid beings around there as well

507
00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:48,559
most of these reports are coming from

508
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,440
truck drivers or cargo workers or human

509
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,280
dock workers

510
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but we did have a specific report well

511
00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:59,039
we had a couple of them but on

512
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:02,320
on july 22nd

513
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,440
there was a report from three ladies i

514
00:20:10,549 --> 00:20:07,840
think it was they were all three females

515
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:10,559
that worked at united cargo

516
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:12,240
now they were getting off work about 10

517
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,919
30 in the evening and as they were

518
00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,360
walking out

519
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:17,280
they could see at a distance because

520
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:19,600
they were probably a good 100 yards away

521
00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:21,200
from this thing

522
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,000
they saw this being with red eyes and

523
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:27,039
wings standing by the fence by the

524
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nearest tarmac

525
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:32,159
and as they were watching this thing the

526
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:33,520
tsa

527
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:35,520
security came up and they drive these

528
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:38,159
little trucks and stuff up there

529
00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:39,120
and

530
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,440
you know they don't they don't carry any

531
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:42,880
type of weapons all they have are

532
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,360
flashlights and maybe restraining stuff

533
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:46,960
but other than that that's all they

534
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,880
carry and uh

535
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,799
they were flashing their flashlights on

536
00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:54,480
this thing

537
00:21:04,070 --> 00:20:58,159
and

538
00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:04,080
off now

539
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,480
we thought that was the last of it

540
00:21:11,110 --> 00:21:07,760
you know we thought we just had these

541
00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:11,120
three witnesses come forward on this

542
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:12,960
but

543
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:15,440
we also had

544
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,799
some cargo workers who i think were

545
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:20,000
and look they're

546
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:22,000
they they got read the riot act all

547
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:23,600
these people have been read to ride act

548
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,000
by personnel at o'hare

549
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:28,080
and their supervisors at their companies

550
00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:29,760
that you know

551
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,240
it's a heron or a big al or something

552
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:34,640
you know don't talk to anybody don't

553
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:36,159
talk to phantoms and monsters in

554
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:38,960
particular you know

555
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,440
and uh

556
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:43,039
but they're doing it they are you know

557
00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,480
they're scared to death of losing their

558
00:21:48,390 --> 00:21:46,480
jobs but something compels them to tell

559
00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,400
us what they're seeing so

560
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:50,400
what happened is this was the same

561
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,159
sighting but these fedex workers uh were

562
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,240
unloading a plane

563
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:58,640
uh at the same time around 10 30 at

564
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,400
night and um

565
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:01,840
there was a couple of them there plus a

566
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:05,039
supervisor and they all saw this thing

567
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,360
and they gave the same description uh

568
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:08,559
thin black

569
00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:10,840
dark color

570
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:14,559
uh bat like wings the red eyes

571
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:17,039
and how it ascended and screamed and

572
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,600
took off and here's a drawing by

573
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,120
our friend uh

574
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:23,440
uh donia dulio

575
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:26,960
of the uh of what people described

576
00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,400
and uh

577
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,400
they called it in they called it into

578
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,320
the supervisor and they called it into

579
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:33,840
tsa

580
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:36,640
and they got there pretty quickly

581
00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:39,440
so apparently and i i did post on the

582
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:41,520
blog the um

583
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:43,120
people were freaking out they were they

584
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,720
were hiding in the plane they actually

585
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:46,320
went into the cargo plane to hide from

586
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:47,760
this thing

587
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,240
so nobody had nobody had the thought of

588
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,559
mine to take a photograph of it or

589
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,720
whatever but they uh

590
00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:56,960
and you know i don't know if that was

591
00:23:02,070 --> 00:22:59,520
them being afraid because of um

592
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,080
you know the warnings they have had

593
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,720
but they have have been warned so that's

594
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:06,240
what you know that's what we're working

595
00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:07,440
on now

596
00:23:12,149 --> 00:23:09,760
also

597
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,159
can you imagine seeing that

598
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,159
well i had an encounter in 88 or

599
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:15,919
something very similar

600
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:18,799
but it freaked us out and i can imagine

601
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:21,679
i mean you know i i understand

602
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:25,490
it it has it's a scary it's a scary cry

603
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,760
[Laughter]

604
00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:29,039
so uh

605
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:32,640
also at the um

606
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:35,039
this past week

607
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,640
at the

608
00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:38,799
wisconsin state fair which is just

609
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,159
outside of milwaukee

610
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:44,880
this was on thursday july

611
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,640
thursday october

612
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:48,159
5th

613
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:50,240
actually there was a cleanup crew there

614
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:52,240
after a concert there was a christian

615
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,520
rock team i mean christian rock band by

616
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:58,159
the name of skillet there

617
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:01,279
and uh as they were out there

618
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,760
in front of the stage

619
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:05,360
cleaning up

620
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,200
two of these workers saw this thing

621
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,880
standing out there and it was staring at

622
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,240
the people that were on the stage

623
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,200
breaking down the equipment

624
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:15,360
and uh

625
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,880
they actually contacted uh manuel manuel

626
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:20,480
got this study

627
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:21,919
and uh

628
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:24,640
yeah red eyes

629
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,480
you know the the wings the whole nine

630
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,279
yards very similar what people have got

631
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:31,600
so uh now a lot of a lot of the

632
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:34,000
milwaukee media picked this up and it's

633
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,679
hurting making its rounds on on the

634
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:37,279
internet but uh

635
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,760
apparently the middle the wisconsin

636
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,840
state fair has something bizarre

637
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,679
happening like that every year i mean

638
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,360
i'm not saying it's a mothman out there

639
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:47,120
or a wing humanoid but they have

640
00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:48,400
something show up

641
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:49,840
i kind of thought that was interesting

642
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,240
because i had never heard that before

643
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:54,640
i'm laughing at vincent vincent's thing

644
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:55,919
where he says that's what you get when

645
00:25:00,470 --> 00:24:59,039
you see skillet but i know like in our

646
00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:00,480
in our

647
00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:03,600
message thread yeah somebody brought up

648
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,840
that it was a christian rock band and

649
00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:07,440
somebody i can't remember but somebody

650
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,720
said they didn't think that anything to

651
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,880
do with it but what do you think

652
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:12,159
like

653
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:13,600
have something to do with the religious

654
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:16,000
aspect of it

655
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,760
i don't know you know those winged

656
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,760
humanoids are so weird

657
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,200
yeah you know

658
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:23,520
we have had uh we've had sightings at la

659
00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:27,919
palo la la la la lows or whatever

660
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:29,360
out in chicago

661
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:30,880
in grant park

662
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,440
uh there were sightings there a couple

663
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:35,440
years ago

664
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,480
uh

665
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,400
you know

666
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,960
my whole thing on this is

667
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:42,799
they i don't think they mind being seen

668
00:25:46,710 --> 00:25:45,039
i think they're out there to be seen now

669
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:46,720
why that is you know they don't stick

670
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,159
around long

671
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:50,799
uh they seem to be curious

672
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,360
uh they're they're not very aggressive

673
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,360
and but there have been cases where they

674
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,360
are somewhat aggressive

675
00:26:01,909 --> 00:26:00,240
um but you know they're here and gone

676
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:01,919
and that's what you know that's what

677
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,000
most people describe

678
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,480
but as as far as what's going on out of

679
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,640
here i don't i don't know you know

680
00:26:12,710 --> 00:26:10,559
earlier on we were getting sightings all

681
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,720
over the city

682
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,640
uh some neighborhoods were having more

683
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:17,039
sightings than other but uh

684
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,720
of course we were getting sightings down

685
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:20,480
in indiana

686
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:21,360
uh

687
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:24,000
just going south into illinois northern

688
00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:26,640
illinois southern wisconsin

689
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,279
and uh even had a few out in michigan

690
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,919
across the lake and uh even out on the

691
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:33,520
lake so

692
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:36,080
at this point right now i think we're at

693
00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,559
i haven't looked but i think it's 128 or

694
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,480
129 sightings

695
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:43,039
that we believe are valid sightings now

696
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,679
that's since 2011.

697
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,840
so all the sightings

698
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:50,000
uh well yeah that's a lot of sightings

699
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:51,200
and uh

700
00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:52,880
you know it's still

701
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,640
it's still one of those things that when

702
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:56,640
somebody sees and reports it they have

703
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:58,080
to look it up because they they haven't

704
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,159
heard anything about it sure you know

705
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:02,000
it's been in the media but

706
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:03,840
it's not had it not had hasn't really

707
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,360
gone mainstream to the point where

708
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:08,000
everybody well the chicago mothman what

709
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:09,600
the hell's that i mean i don't know what

710
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,880
that is you know but um yeah so a lot of

711
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,240
times when

712
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,240
somebody contacts me or calls me it's

713
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:18,880
kind of funny listen to him

714
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,799
somebody gave me this number to call you

715
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,640
because i saw something i have no idea

716
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:24,480
what the hell this thing was

717
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:26,559
and they told me to call you or i found

718
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:29,120
your name on the internet and you know

719
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,640
a lot of dotted you know and you know

720
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:35,039
so uh and then you tell them well you're

721
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,480
not the only one i mean this is

722
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:38,000
something that's been going on quite a

723
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,120
while

724
00:27:45,669 --> 00:27:41,679
uh but you know an another

725
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:45,679
good nice aspect of this even though

726
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:49,679
they and we can't get any of the um

727
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:52,799
the uh uh freedom of information act

728
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,360
requests filled through the city

729
00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,760
is we've had police officers

730
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:58,960
uh

731
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,279
city workers

732
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,840
we had somebody in the mayor's office

733
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,760
that saw one of these things

734
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:08,399
uh i've had

735
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,559
i had two reported signs one was a

736
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,480
retired police officer from chicago and

737
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,000
ellen was

738
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,240
the two on-duty cops who got flagged

739
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,440
down by some of the people in the

740
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,960
neighborhood and this thing was up on

741
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,640
top of the building

742
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:22,080
and uh but i've had other police

743
00:28:27,510 --> 00:28:25,679
officers talk to me and um

744
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:27,520
yeah so and of course at the airport

745
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,159
we're getting tsa security talking about

746
00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:32,480
it we plus cargo people

747
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,120
i i've got a uh i got a source in one of

748
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,000
the airlines who's actually a supervisor

749
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:39,679
but i i won't you know i don't want to

750
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,799
go any further than that because i don't

751
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,159
want that person

752
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,640
getting you know getting tagged for this

753
00:28:48,630 --> 00:28:46,799
but they have been very they have been

754
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:48,640
very cooperative and giving you an idea

755
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:49,440
what

756
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,480
terminal where they are actually at

757
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:55,600
so uh

758
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:57,919
and they are in charge this supervisor

759
00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:00,399
is in charge of the ground crew

760
00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,600
so uh yeah so you know it's pretty busy

761
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,120
and uh

762
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,200
they have had some of their people

763
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,799
actually tell them

764
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:10,559
that they're seeing this stuff

765
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:12,880
so

766
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,399
uh air traffic controllers pilots

767
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,559
you know we foul um

768
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,200
we have filed uh foia requests with the

769
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:24,559
faa at great lakes

770
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:27,360
no reports even though i know

771
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,399
these pilots are calling it in

772
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:32,799
so um yeah so that's what that's what's

773
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,760
going on

774
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,840
look at all the ufo stuff that came out

775
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:38,640
so i was just gonna say that yeah i mean

776
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:41,200
you know but you know all in all when it

777
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:42,640
comes to the paranormal we're kind of

778
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,799
left on our own you know

779
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,320
and i think it's going to be like that

780
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,240
for a long time uh you got any questions

781
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,640
in there um

782
00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,640
there we go a good one could any

783
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:54,640
multi-size be produced with lights or

784
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:57,120
holograms i guess it could be but

785
00:30:00,389 --> 00:29:58,640
you know

786
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,399
we have no evidence of that of what

787
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,080
that's going that's going on we really

788
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:04,240
don't i mean we've had people saying

789
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,000
there's squirrel suits people flying

790
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:08,880
around in suits and stuff and drones and

791
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:10,000
all that

792
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,200
but

793
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,000
those devices cannot do some of the

794
00:30:17,510 --> 00:30:15,840
maneuvers that we have people have been

795
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:17,520
describing to us

796
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,200
and if it's a squirrel suit somebody

797
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,679
jumping off a building and

798
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,640
trying to

799
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:24,559
fly down or float down well you know

800
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:25,919
they don't call it the windy city for

801
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,840
nothing they're going to go splat on one

802
00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,880
of the side of them buildings and

803
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,720
they're they're gone that's a really

804
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,399
good question though isn't it that's a

805
00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:35,120
good question yeah yeah it is because uh

806
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:37,200
there are a lot of questions

807
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,799
um you know

808
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,399
even beginning i was getting a lot of

809
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:42,080
questions as somebody's hoaxing this

810
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,960
well

811
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:44,640
this has been going on and very

812
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:47,200
consistently for a number of years now

813
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:48,799
so

814
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:53,200
tangible evidence that this is being

815
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,399
host

816
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:56,399
so folks if you got questions about

817
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,559
anything for amy or for

818
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:00,640
for vincent or myself please put it up

819
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,760
there i have a question for you

820
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,919
going where the cameras so

821
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:08,080
of all the different creatures that you

822
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:09,840
hear about or you've

823
00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:12,000
seen or you've taken reports for what

824
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:15,360
would you least like to come across

825
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,840
like the scariest one well the the

826
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:19,360
upright canines

827
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,080
me too they're death of those things

828
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:24,799
you know absolutely

829
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,360
they hold their ground for the most part

830
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,760
they aren't frightened we've had

831
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:32,159
hunters actually encroaching on these

832
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,279
things

833
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,360
uh some with high power rifles some

834
00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:37,679
shotguns but no no i'm not taking a shot

835
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,559
at it

836
00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:40,640
i i think they're so intimidating that

837
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:41,840
that's the last thing they're thinking

838
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:44,080
about and and let alone you know just

839
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:46,640
like with bigfoot i think there's a very

840
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:48,240
good possibility that there's some type

841
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,919
of infrasound

842
00:31:54,310 --> 00:31:52,320
you know connection sure

843
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,320
to where uh they kind of get people to

844
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,240
back off

845
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:58,080
um you know even with these winged

846
00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:59,519
humanoids i think there's something

847
00:32:03,509 --> 00:32:01,600
related to that because i think it kind

848
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:03,519
of stuns people not that it wouldn't

849
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:05,440
stun them anyway but from shock of

850
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:06,720
seeing the thing

851
00:32:10,070 --> 00:32:08,559
but i think there there's something that

852
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,080
the they

853
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:12,880
emit that that kind of uh puts them at a

854
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:14,480
disadvantage for a certain amount of

855
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,600
time we've had witnesses literally

856
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,600
fall to the ground

857
00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,919
uh being weak

858
00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:22,880
uh

859
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,159
being tired

860
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,640
have to sit down somewhere

861
00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:29,120
that has happened so i'm passing out

862
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:30,000
even

863
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:31,039
waking up

864
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,000
hours later yeah yeah it's uh it's

865
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,880
there's been a lot of that so um

866
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:38,799
hey if we got any questions uh just put

867
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:45,830
and peace thank you again for your

868
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:48,240
contributions

869
00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:53,909
lon do we think that these uh flying

870
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,559
humanoids the ones specifically that are

871
00:33:01,269 --> 00:32:58,799
being seen in chicago do we think

872
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,279
they're being like uh conjured

873
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,440
or brought to that area

874
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,440
or do you think they are

875
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,760
living in that area no i don't think

876
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,799
they're living there i i think you know

877
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:12,880
that's one of the theories we we started

878
00:33:17,909 --> 00:33:15,519
working on earlier with the conjuring

879
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:17,919
maybe it was uh

880
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,240
if it was something that was manifested

881
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,080
or conjured up by the occult or

882
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,679
something like that

883
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:25,519
we didn't find any evidence of that

884
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,399
though

885
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:28,799
there were some areas there where a lot

886
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,200
of that took place i mean

887
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,840
you know we had a special one area

888
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:35,120
little village

889
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,760
heavily hispanic area where they um the

890
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:39,919
santorini is pretty heavy

891
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,799
uh there and uh we thought maybe we were

892
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,559
gonna check though we didn't get any

893
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,640
evidence possibly

894
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:48,640
conjuring up guardians or centuries or

895
00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:49,679
something

896
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,559
uh not like not like what i believe

897
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,320
happened at point pleasant because i

898
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:55,919
think there

899
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,240
that was something that was summoned by

900
00:34:03,190 --> 00:34:00,880
a very strong uh

901
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:03,200
uh indigenous spirit

902
00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:04,960
you know if you ever go to point

903
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,120
pleasant and you're lucky enough to go

904
00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:09,760
into the uh western old west virginia

905
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,200
ordinance works

906
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,440
and get some evp

907
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,760
you know and digital it

908
00:34:19,030 --> 00:34:17,280
some of them are pretty unbelievable

909
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:19,040
they really aren't there's and i i you

910
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:20,960
know me being an intuitive i go in there

911
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:23,280
and it almost blows me out of the place

912
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,280
because it's very strong

913
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,440
and i think that energy is still there i

914
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,960
mean there's been a lot of historical

915
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,280
activity there a lot of death

916
00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:34,000
uh not only with settlers and the

917
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,760
indians fighting but mostly with the

918
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,240
indian tribes fighting each other

919
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,320
it was a key area where

920
00:34:43,909 --> 00:34:42,320
the two rivers met and uh it was a

921
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,919
hunting area and you know they fought

922
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,639
over the territory so

923
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:48,639
yeah i i think it's a there's a very

924
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:49,919
strong

925
00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,040
indigenous spirit or energy there

926
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,720
that that's able to conjure or

927
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,920
uh

928
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,839
call upon one of these things now

929
00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:01,599
where's it coming from well that's the

930
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,440
big question

931
00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,000
is is this a multi-dimensional being an

932
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:08,640
international being who knows i mean we

933
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,760
we

934
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,400
can speculate that

935
00:35:16,150 --> 00:35:14,640
uh we've had people see them as

936
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:16,160
literally

937
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,320
you know just like through thin air like

938
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,560
they went through an invisible doorway

939
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:23,680
um

940
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:26,000
we have to consider that

941
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,920
uh you know and that that's part of a

942
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:29,680
strong argument i think we're going to

943
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:31,280
have now with this thing at o'hara

944
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:33,119
because um

945
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,320
there's something going on at that

946
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,320
cemetery you know it's something we

947
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,480
don't understand yet at what's going

948
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:40,079
with the cemetery

949
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:41,200
uh

950
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:42,240
you know

951
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:43,920
one of our colleagues and i are working

952
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,240
pretty heavy on that now

953
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:48,240
and um

954
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,320
there's a lot of ufo reports out over

955
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:52,720
the uh lake over that way too oh yeah

956
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,000
chicago is well known for ufo activity

957
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:58,240
uh you know along the lake even at

958
00:36:01,430 --> 00:35:59,520
o'hara

959
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:01,440
um

960
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,520
you know seems so many times these uh

961
00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:05,760
ufo sightings are

962
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,200
connected with these cryptid sightings

963
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:12,160
well what happens i mean you know

964
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,920
occasionally you will get one where

965
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,839
there are multiple sightings of

966
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,920
different types of phenomena

967
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:20,400
uh i think but for the most part we do

968
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,280
get more sightings of bigfoot and orb

969
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:24,560
activity

970
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,960
uh around area even after somebody makes

971
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,960
a report and an investigator goes there

972
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,720
a couple days later

973
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,960
uh and they'll go into the same area and

974
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:34,720
there's a lot of war activity in the

975
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,920
forest

976
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,480
uh so is that connected to deciding who

977
00:36:42,950 --> 00:36:40,640
knows it may be you know

978
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,960
uh but you know you know stan gore has

979
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,640
documented a lot of this stuff you know

980
00:36:49,030 --> 00:36:46,720
especially up in the um

981
00:36:51,349 --> 00:36:49,040
the chestnut ridge and of course back in

982
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,359
1973

983
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:53,280
there was just so much going on back

984
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,280
then i mean it was crazy

985
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,040
the ufo activity particularly in

986
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:58,880
pennsylvania was just

987
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,400
off the chart

988
00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:03,200
and because of that there were a lot of

989
00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:05,599
uh cryptid sightings

990
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:07,359
that they many people believe we're

991
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:09,760
actually associated with the

992
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,030
somebody asked in the chat if um

993
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:19,440
there were like bases under

994
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,800
the lake i think yeah that's interesting

995
00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,359
to me i don't know about that but i'm

996
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,119
also wondering

997
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,359
i used to live up in cleveland

998
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,920
and you know the salt mines under there

999
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:33,440
they have that under lake michigan as

1000
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,520
well well i don't know about lake

1001
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:36,640
michigan

1002
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:37,599
uh

1003
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,839
lake michigan has a history of

1004
00:37:44,150 --> 00:37:41,280
disappearances

1005
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,160
there have been reports of u.s so active

1006
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:47,119
actual crap coming out of the lake

1007
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:48,800
there have been some cryptid sightings

1008
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,440
of reptilian-like beans

1009
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,200
on the shores

1010
00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,040
gonna give me nice see that that scares

1011
00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,359
me the most yeah those reptilians that's

1012
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,320
what scares me the most but if there is

1013
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,560
any type of military or

1014
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,480
deep underground base

1015
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,400
activity

1016
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,720
you know i wouldn't be surprised if they

1017
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,800
they it was mentioned in connection with

1018
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,079
the airport

1019
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,520
you know

1020
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,880
these type of theories have been coming

1021
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,400
here for a lot of years in particular

1022
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,720
like the new well the newest airport

1023
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,560
that was built on denver

1024
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:22,640
uh you know there were there was has

1025
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:24,320
been talk of all kinds of crazy

1026
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,880
phenomena going on out there

1027
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,280
and um

1028
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:31,280
o'hara is well known for paranormal

1029
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:32,640
activity

1030
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:35,119
you know there there are travelers that

1031
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,960
show up that really shouldn't be there

1032
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,160
you know

1033
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,560
people see this person see this

1034
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,280
manifestation and it just disappears

1035
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,200
uh there has been a lot of that over the

1036
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,079
years and there's also been uh you know

1037
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:51,359
even we have had reports of uh possible

1038
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,720
grays

1039
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:55,440
being seen out on the tarmac or even in

1040
00:39:02,310 --> 00:39:00,470
you know

1041
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:02,320
is that what's going on i guess it's

1042
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:03,760
possible you know i don't you know i

1043
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:04,720
don't know

1044
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,160
if we don't have access to it there's

1045
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:08,720
not much we can do about it but you know

1046
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,359
because of chicago's size and everything

1047
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,680
i think it's very possible

1048
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:15,920
that uh that may be that may be a

1049
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,400
possibility so who knows

1050
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,800
amy have you seen any uh orbs when

1051
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:22,320
you're out uh

1052
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:24,560
looking for sasquatch

1053
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,599
um

1054
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,000
i've seen some a couple weird things

1055
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,000
that i can't really explain

1056
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,560
during my second possible sighting and

1057
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:34,240
again like i didn't see it well enough

1058
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:35,920
to know for sure it was at night through

1059
00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,440
a flear it was like misty raining and we

1060
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,440
were standing near some like high

1061
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:43,040
tension wires

1062
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:45,760
and there were some white orb like

1063
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:47,119
things but i'm just wondering if that

1064
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,079
was like

1065
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:50,720
the electricity you know or something

1066
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,079
like that lighting or something like

1067
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:53,760
that something like that yeah but there

1068
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,720
have been once in kentucky and um

1069
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,640
once in

1070
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,960
uh somebody i forget who it was blue

1071
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:02,640
cross road said he was talking to dave

1072
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,640
hensley and it was once went out with

1073
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,000
him camping

1074
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,319
we saw some strange lights but they

1075
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:10,880
didn't look like orbs they looked like

1076
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,760
both times i could have sworn

1077
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,440
somebody was standing there with some

1078
00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:17,440
kind of electronics because it looked

1079
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:18,319
like

1080
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:22,560
um

1081
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,520
like something that might have been

1082
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,680
going off from a camera you know like a

1083
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,560
led light but there was nothing

1084
00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,359
there and as far as we knew nobody like

1085
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,119
with a laser pointer or anything like

1086
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,560
that so

1087
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,720
both times i was positive somebody was

1088
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,560
standing there and they weren't so i'm

1089
00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:40,319
not sure what that was

1090
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:41,440
you know i wanted to ask you something

1091
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:43,280
amy and i didn't talk to you about this

1092
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,560
but i asked some of the other people in

1093
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,760
the team

1094
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,240
that uh cass river sighting

1095
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:50,480
up in uh was that michigan

1096
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:52,400
of the bigfoot that crossed the

1097
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,599
the river

1098
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,200
oh yeah you know it's what i'm talking

1099
00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:56,880
about yeah what are your thoughts on

1100
00:41:03,829 --> 00:40:58,000
that

1101
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:03,839
so i don't know i i am

1102
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,480
i'm too skeptical for my own

1103
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:08,880
good sometimes i think

1104
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:11,040
yeah it's i guess it's good but it also

1105
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,720
takes sometimes it takes the fun out of

1106
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:15,359
it a little bit but um i know that it

1107
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,800
had been

1108
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:19,200
like going making the rounds a bit

1109
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,400
and you i i personally have not looked

1110
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:24,960
into it enough to have really an opinion

1111
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,160
because there are people that were

1112
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,760
saying oh no it's a hoax and then others

1113
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,000
that were saying no it wasn't but i like

1114
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:32,240
to um

1115
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:34,640
look through evidence myself before

1116
00:41:38,870 --> 00:41:36,560
making that opinion

1117
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,880
but i'll just be honest i don't i have

1118
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,800
not done that so i'm not sure

1119
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:42,400
yeah i think that's one of those things

1120
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,839
that's going to have to

1121
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,240
kind of make its way through the years

1122
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,359
and people having uh

1123
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,720
more thought about it just like with

1124
00:41:55,109 --> 00:41:52,480
patterson gimlin i mean you know it took

1125
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,119
a long time before that even became

1126
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,079
mainstream i want it to be real yeah oh

1127
00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:00,079
yeah absolutely yeah i mean it's not

1128
00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,400
sure just over the years i've seen some

1129
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,880
videos and such that i've kind of break

1130
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:06,880
down and try to

1131
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,920
you know try to get yeah there it is um

1132
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:11,040
i mean it

1133
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,839
you know some people say it's a um a

1134
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,040
suit it kind of looks like it but you

1135
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,079
don't know it would be so hard to hoax

1136
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,240
that that's so not only that

1137
00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:24,240
but you'd get waterlogged going out

1138
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,560
there in the river like that

1139
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,560
and it looks like it's carrying there it

1140
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:30,960
looks like it's carrying a small

1141
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:33,680
a small juve i mean a juvenile in his

1142
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:35,359
right arm

1143
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,280
but i don't know i mean i saw other ones

1144
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,119
where it looked like i had like a like

1145
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:40,800
something slung over its right shoulder

1146
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:42,319
i don't know right

1147
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,960
but uh unfortunately it was only for um

1148
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,480
i don't know how many seconds it wasn't

1149
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:51,200
long seconds yeah yeah so

1150
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,319
i tend to throw things out if they can't

1151
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:56,480
can't really be um

1152
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,720
and this could be for like a

1153
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,720
regular animal you know like with my

1154
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:02,720
naturalist stuff i tend to throw things

1155
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,599
out if it could be a hoax or if it's not

1156
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,119
if you really aren't sure that you can

1157
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,839
make it out but i even i know that i

1158
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:11,200
probably throw the baby out with the

1159
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:13,680
bath water sometimes with that you know

1160
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:15,920
like like i'm just like

1161
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,240
next but i could be like nexting

1162
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:20,000
something legitimate

1163
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:21,680
yeah i'm accused of that a lot of time

1164
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,079
of being uh

1165
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,480
kind of being enthralled by what i get

1166
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,480
and just taking

1167
00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:30,640
taking the word of the witness and

1168
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,720
trying to make it sound like it is good

1169
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,640
i mean you know i i've kind of gotten

1170
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:36,079
better at that i've become more of a

1171
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,160
skip because time has gone by i mean

1172
00:43:43,109 --> 00:43:40,720
i've seen i've seen these bigfoot

1173
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,119
films that are just so ridiculously bad

1174
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,359
i mean you know it's pretty obvious well

1175
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,920
it's like once i started like finding

1176
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:49,920
out that people were just straight lying

1177
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,800
to me yeah then it's made me a lot more

1178
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,400
of a skeptic because

1179
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,839
like there were people i really trusted

1180
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,480
that i now know to be 100 hoaxers like

1181
00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:00,480
i'm i know i'm not just i don't just

1182
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,760
think that i know it

1183
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:03,920
so that has made maybe

1184
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,000
yeah it made me be a little bit more

1185
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,480
but i will always say i don't i'm not an

1186
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,400
expert i don't know for sure and i hope

1187
00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,800
that it's bigfoot right or what i don't

1188
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:16,400
know if i hope it's dogman or some

1189
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:17,760
lizard thing because i don't want that

1190
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,400
to be true but right right

1191
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,480
but i'm not saying it's not

1192
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:24,560
we also got another video or a

1193
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,480
photograph from a video of a uh

1194
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,160
that was from luis castillos from a

1195
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:32,480
friend of his that had gotten it at salt

1196
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:34,839
fork now i know you had mentioned the

1197
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,839
area uh

1198
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,359
can you kind of talk about that area i

1199
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:41,119
mean i know you've been there and you're

1200
00:44:44,790 --> 00:44:43,200
really familiar with it

1201
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,800
salt fork has you know has a rich

1202
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,119
history of bigfoot sightings some again

1203
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,359
that have been found out to be hoaxed

1204
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,520
and others not so much and i've been out

1205
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,920
there quite a bit camping um

1206
00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,520
used to help with some different things

1207
00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:57,359
like bigfoot adventure weekend every

1208
00:45:02,870 --> 00:45:01,119
june that alan and jesse did um and we

1209
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,880
had some interesting stuff happen it was

1210
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:05,119
like a thing that they did and i helped

1211
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:07,520
them for kids and families mostly that

1212
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,800
they'd come and you'd take them out

1213
00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:10,960
looking for bigfoot and stuff but we had

1214
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:14,000
actually some act like to me impressive

1215
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,839
things happen whether it was

1216
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:18,000
different animal calls we couldn't make

1217
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,119
out or

1218
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:20,720
there was one time we were there where

1219
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,200
we kept getting these rocks thrown at us

1220
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,240
and that was the first place that i have

1221
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:28,000
ever and there's there's also been

1222
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:29,359
before i go off on my own story there's

1223
00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:32,800
also been footprints found there um

1224
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:35,839
just a lot of sightings and uh now when

1225
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,119
you go

1226
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,200
it's kind of like a bigfoot

1227
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,839
mecca i guess so when you're there you

1228
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,400
always have to be wondering if like if

1229
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,000
somebody else is out there looking for

1230
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,520
bigfoot at the same time as you and

1231
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,920
you're just hearing them so it's kind of

1232
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,079
like i don't know but i'll tell you what

1233
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,400
the the first time i ever

1234
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,640
did any bigfooting if you want to call

1235
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,720
it that i had gone to

1236
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,280
an event there and it was the day after

1237
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,520
the event ended and

1238
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:05,760
i had my husband at the time we had gone

1239
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,720
down and were like taking a hike and i

1240
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:10,960
found what looked kind of like a really

1241
00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:13,920
big footprint and i'm like oh this can't

1242
00:46:17,030 --> 00:46:15,040
be true you know there's all these

1243
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:17,040
people here but it was off the beaten

1244
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,200
path so it was weird so when we went

1245
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:21,440
back to the lodge i saw these other guys

1246
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,640
that were

1247
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,480
at that same event and i'm like oh

1248
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,319
they're still here so i went to them and

1249
00:46:29,510 --> 00:46:28,160
i showed them my picture you know my

1250
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,520
phone and i'm like

1251
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,040
you know this is kind of interesting

1252
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:32,720
right and they thought it was

1253
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:35,520
so they asked if we wanted to go to that

1254
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,560
area

1255
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,720
and look for bigfoot that night with

1256
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:41,200
them and of course i was like yes i'd

1257
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:43,520
never done anything like that before

1258
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,200
so what's funny is i went to the desk at

1259
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,160
the lodge and i told there's like a

1260
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,079
young lady behind the desk and i'm like

1261
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:54,400
listen i'm about to go out in the dark

1262
00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:55,839
with these people i don't know they're

1263
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,760
in room whatever so if i don't come back

1264
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:02,710
so now they're actually friends of mine

1265
00:47:07,589 --> 00:47:05,760
so no they did not kill me but anyway we

1266
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,599
went out there and

1267
00:47:11,270 --> 00:47:09,760
um we're hiking around looking around

1268
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:11,280
different areas

1269
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,400
and

1270
00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:15,040
we go one of the guys they had like a

1271
00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:17,119
machete so they're bushwhacking their

1272
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:19,760
way up this hill

1273
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:20,720
and

1274
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:22,960
there was no paths around this was this

1275
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,040
was like outside of the park really i

1276
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,119
believe that area is outside the park so

1277
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,599
we had gone quite a distance it wasn't

1278
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,599
probably where somebody's gonna hoax a

1279
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,760
footprint i guess they could have so

1280
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:35,520
anyway we're bushwhacking our way up

1281
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,559
there what's important to know is that i

1282
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,880
took them like i drove to where we had

1283
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:43,040
seen this they couldn't have planted

1284
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:44,400
anybody there because they didn't know

1285
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,440
where we were going okay okay so didn't

1286
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:49,760
see any other cars it's very remote so

1287
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,440
we bushwhack up

1288
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,720
into this

1289
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,559
up this hill and we're standing there

1290
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,240
listening and of course i'm terrified

1291
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,599
because back then like i did not go out

1292
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,040
in the dark especially not in the woods

1293
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:03,599
and it was just like oh my gosh the idea

1294
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:05,839
i still get scared sometimes but back

1295
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,760
then i was petrified

1296
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,839
so we're standing like in this little

1297
00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:11,839
group you know waiting to see if

1298
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,599
anything would happen

1299
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,440
and i didn't know at the time that they

1300
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,440
were recording the whole thing

1301
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:20,160
and like on audio recorder and i'm like

1302
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,839
i think i want to go back now

1303
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,400
so we're standing there i was so scared

1304
00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:28,800
but what was interesting was from the

1305
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,280
woods and i could see it was dark but

1306
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,520
there was enough like you know

1307
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,599
light that you could still see them from

1308
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,440
the woods like this it was like somebody

1309
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,119
grabbed a handful of gravel and just

1310
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,680
whipped it at us so these little stones

1311
00:48:46,630 --> 00:48:44,880
came flying at us it wasn't a place

1312
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,640
where there were like like a creek bed

1313
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,559
or anything where there were a lot of

1314
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,800
those types of stones

1315
00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:52,960
you know and just that it came out of

1316
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,559
the woods and we had bushwhacked in

1317
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,200
there like for at least a quarter mile

1318
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,280
if not longer

1319
00:49:02,309 --> 00:49:00,880
that was interesting to me and i feel

1320
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:02,319
like it was kind of beginner's luck

1321
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,200
because

1322
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:04,800
i don't usually have anything happen

1323
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,559
when i go out looking for bigfoot you

1324
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,319
know i say i'm the worst bigfooter in

1325
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,480
the world because nothing happens but

1326
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,800
that was really oh you're part of a

1327
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,720
large club

1328
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:17,119
that kind of got me hooked on it that

1329
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,520
night at salt fork because where did

1330
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,599
those come from what else throws rocks

1331
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:23,119
unless there was a person that just

1332
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:25,440
happened to be there to throw things at

1333
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,240
us

1334
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:28,800
it was really interesting

1335
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:31,359
well you know that whole guernsey county

1336
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,040
area there's a lot of weird stuff that

1337
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,839
goes on out there anyway yeah i have i

1338
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,000
have actually had uh

1339
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:41,280
haunting investigations there as well

1340
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:42,960
so i you know i don't know if it's tied

1341
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,040
into any of the big foot activity but it

1342
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,280
just seems to be the perfect place for

1343
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,280
for bigfoot i mean you know

1344
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:51,280
i told you like i have my doubts about

1345
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:53,200
whether bigfoot is paranormal although

1346
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:55,440
i've had people tell me stories that i'm

1347
00:50:00,549 --> 00:49:58,400
like okay i never say never

1348
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,559
i just that's just that how i look at it

1349
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,200
but man i i've had weird stuff happen so

1350
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,200
i believe you

1351
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,200
i've had weird other stuff not bigfoot

1352
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,280
related happen oh yeah

1353
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:11,040
well you know

1354
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,720
when you immerse yourself in this type

1355
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,880
of stuff you're going to have something

1356
00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:17,040
come you know i it happens to me all the

1357
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,400
time and yeah

1358
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,480
you know it kind of drives me crazy

1359
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,880
sometimes but uh you know this is what i

1360
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:25,119
picked to do and i got to kind of live

1361
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:27,520
with it unfortunately but i like to do

1362
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,680
it anyway anyway i i [\h__\h] about it but

1363
00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,240
i'd like to do it

1364
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,760
so folks you got any questions we've got

1365
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:35,520
10 more minutes on here so if you got

1366
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,760
anything uh let us know about it

1367
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,079
uh has anybody else seen a reptilian

1368
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,319
astrally project

1369
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,440
like a ghost i know one person

1370
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:47,200
who definitely has

1371
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,000
i know two people who definitely have

1372
00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:52,160
matter of fact um

1373
00:50:57,030 --> 00:50:54,160
and i'm working with both of them still

1374
00:51:02,150 --> 00:51:00,230
it's an interesting question um

1375
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:02,160
is it possible you know

1376
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:05,280
the whole reptilian thing is a

1377
00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:06,480
you know

1378
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:13,270
the sleeve stacks i like that like for

1379
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,319
real is that what they're supposed to

1380
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,160
look like because those are kind of

1381
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:18,960
yes gosh that's when i have a team of

1382
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,400
bigfooters with kids out we call

1383
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:22,000
ourselves the sleaze sleestax like

1384
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,680
sleestack

1385
00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,319
meets chaka that's one yeah no that's

1386
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,559
creepy i don't want to see that um you

1387
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:31,280
know just like this crazy nut

1388
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,559
uh that believed in the q anon stuff and

1389
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,280
said his kids were reptilian and killed

1390
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,119
him a couple days ago

1391
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:41,520
oh that's crazy

1392
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:44,640
sad yeah so i mean you know my god that

1393
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:47,760
comes from jillian's uh you know i

1394
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:49,119
oh no

1395
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,880
you know i let's put it this way i've

1396
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,359
been asked to be on on uh

1397
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,520
productions as far as with reptilian

1398
00:51:59,750 --> 00:51:58,160
sightings up and i won't do it

1399
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,760
and the only reason i won't do it is

1400
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:01,839
because i really don't know that much

1401
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,760
to where i think i can go in there and

1402
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,640
give

1403
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:05,920
information

1404
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:07,920
uh you know i can document what people

1405
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:09,920
tell me and that's what i have done for

1406
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,440
years

1407
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,400
but as far as really believing that

1408
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:16,640
there is some type of reptilian race and

1409
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:19,280
is it connected to humans or

1410
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,240
is it a particular race or you know

1411
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:24,720
what you know i really don't know i i

1412
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,440
really don't know uh maybe one day we'll

1413
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:29,359
find out you know and i'll be honest

1414
00:52:33,270 --> 00:52:30,880
with you i think that day is coming

1415
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:33,280
sooner than later i think so i think

1416
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:36,800
things are going to shake loose

1417
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,280
five years maybe yeah next five we'll be

1418
00:52:43,829 --> 00:52:41,520
on that but i'm just saying you know

1419
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,839
uh i i think with technology the way it

1420
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,760
is and i've said before quantum

1421
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,240
computing becomes more mainstream

1422
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,480
i think we're possibly going to get some

1423
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:51,760
answers

1424
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:54,240
uh not necessarily from the scientists

1425
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:55,280
but from

1426
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,520
the public right you know that's like

1427
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,280
what i wrote my book

1428
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,359
was all public sightings i know

1429
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,440
experiencers and uh

1430
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,200
you know the gov the government is gonna

1431
00:53:09,030 --> 00:53:07,440
tell us or the powers that be tell us

1432
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:09,040
well

1433
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:10,800
you know you gotta you gotta take what

1434
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:13,040
you can get and then determine what you

1435
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:15,680
know what it was they actually saw

1436
00:53:19,589 --> 00:53:18,079
and uh you know

1437
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:19,599
you know the whole uh

1438
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:21,040
the whole extraterrestrial

1439
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,599
ultra-terrestrial multi-dimensional beam

1440
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,119
thing is uh

1441
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,960
it's interesting and there's a lot of

1442
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,040
things have come out of the research but

1443
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:31,839
you know we've really don't have

1444
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:34,079
the answers yet but

1445
00:53:41,030 --> 00:53:40,150
i don't want them to be real

1446
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:41,040
huh

1447
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:46,630
but i've said this before too like when

1448
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,280
i'm in in my tent at night if i'm

1449
00:53:51,990 --> 00:53:50,720
especially if i'm out there by myself

1450
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:52,000
but even if there's other people in

1451
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,240
their tents i just lie there and i just

1452
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:55,680
repeat like

1453
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:57,359
i don't believe in bears i don't believe

1454
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,440
in cougars i don't believe in bigfoot i

1455
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:01,440
don't believe in the dog man or whatever

1456
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:04,240
it is or i can't sleep

1457
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,280
well

1458
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,960
that's a good way to be i mean some

1459
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:08,240
people think that you sit there and

1460
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:10,400
think about you're to manifest them

1461
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,640
well i just like get it out of my head

1462
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,040
get it out of my head yeah uh we got any

1463
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:17,440
more questions uh do you think mothman

1464
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,359
likes or prefers a certain

1465
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:21,760
cloud pattern

1466
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,599
um you know i haven't even thought of

1467
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,480
that

1468
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:26,400
uh

1469
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:27,680
i don't know

1470
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,160
you guys got any thoughts on that

1471
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,119
i've never

1472
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:35,280
paid attention to that no

1473
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,040
that has never crossed my mind uh

1474
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,760
i i will say

1475
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:43,280
most of the sightings that we do have

1476
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:44,960
are on overcast days

1477
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:47,280
uh even every time it's usually overcast

1478
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:48,400
there's

1479
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,400
not a whole lot of stars or moving or

1480
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:52,640
anything like that out there but you

1481
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,640
know when i had my encounter it was a it

1482
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:57,040
was a bright moon bright night so i

1483
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:58,960
don't know

1484
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:01,839
there's really much evidence to prove it

1485
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,760
either way

1486
00:55:07,589 --> 00:55:05,680
so okay folks we got five more minutes

1487
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,599
you got anything put it up here we will

1488
00:55:11,829 --> 00:55:09,839
be very happy to

1489
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,839
banter with your question and see if we

1490
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:14,160
can answer

1491
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,040
um

1492
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:17,359
peace just put something creepy up what

1493
00:55:20,789 --> 00:55:18,880
do you say

1494
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,799
he said he had one come into his room at

1495
00:55:24,309 --> 00:55:22,960
night oh

1496
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:24,319
and then later in the basement of a

1497
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:27,760
hospital basements are creepy

1498
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,960
uh i had one come in at night to hook me

1499
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,680
up

1500
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,520
what came in it was a wing humanoid it

1501
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:35,040
was a reptilian i think it was a

1502
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,599
reptilian i think she's tough well i'll

1503
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,280
tell you that um

1504
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,880
you know we've heard a lot of us have

1505
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,640
heard that before we've had them coming

1506
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,640
into bedrooms and

1507
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:46,880
scaring the bejesus out of the person uh

1508
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,079
so yeah you know i've heard that many

1509
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:52,960
times you know it's just a matter of uh

1510
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,440
it's hard to prove and uh but

1511
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:57,359
you know if the witness says it and you

1512
00:56:05,030 --> 00:55:59,200
know they they come up with the yeah she

1513
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,589
uh do you think the chicago flying being

1514
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:09,599
are looking for something what are they

1515
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:11,520
doing yeah well that's another big

1516
00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,480
question

1517
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:14,880
i i have no idea you know

1518
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:18,000
like i said before they're not shy

1519
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:20,000
um are they looking for something i

1520
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,599
don't know do they want to be seen i

1521
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,040
believe so

1522
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,640
um

1523
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,319
is it something to do with us do they

1524
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:29,359
want us to know they're here i think so

1525
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,480
is it a harbinger i doubt it

1526
00:56:36,069 --> 00:56:34,559
uh i don't believe in i don't really

1527
00:56:38,870 --> 00:56:36,079
believe in the harbinger thing i don't

1528
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,880
believe is a harbinger at point pleasant

1529
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,319
but um

1530
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:42,640
the fact that there seemed to be several

1531
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:45,040
different types of them showing up

1532
00:56:47,190 --> 00:56:46,400
uh

1533
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:47,200
can

1534
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:49,839
i tend to believe that there is a

1535
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:52,319
specific reason for that

1536
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:54,319
now is something opening opening up a

1537
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,880
rift somehow by accident and these

1538
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,400
things are sneaking through from another

1539
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:00,880
dimension

1540
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,069
you know this is this is the the

1541
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:08,000
question that we have been working on

1542
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:11,359
for years and years and years now and uh

1543
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,400
you know

1544
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,160
and i assure you

1545
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,920
if we come up with evidence we will

1546
00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:17,520
report it

1547
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,160
blue crossroads has a good one perhaps

1548
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,520
they're attracted to either the low

1549
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,359
sonic vibrations of all the air traffic

1550
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,040
or the high-pitched sound of the engine

1551
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:29,119
well that may be too interesting

1552
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,640
you know we've talked about we talked

1553
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:32,400
about that too even though

1554
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,000
even though it's being seen all over the

1555
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:36,720
city and out into the suburbs and the

1556
00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:40,079
rural areas but as far as o'hara goes

1557
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,119
yeah maybe

1558
00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,760
maybe it's uh like the radar equipment

1559
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:45,760
or even the planes or whatever that

1560
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:48,000
that's drawing them i don't know

1561
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,599
you know i wish i did know but um

1562
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:53,119
i have another question but i don't know

1563
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,760
if i want the answer oh god

1564
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,200
no this is we were talking about what

1565
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,440
scared us the most and dog man does but

1566
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:01,280
there's something worse and i think it's

1567
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,520
just i think it's just like an urban

1568
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,760
legend and just a scary story for kids

1569
00:58:09,510 --> 00:58:07,680
but now i'm wondering if you've ever

1570
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:09,520
heard of it do you ever hear those

1571
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,520
stories of the watermelon baby

1572
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,119
oh i know what you're talking about it's

1573
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:17,200
like supposed to be this

1574
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:18,960
baby

1575
00:58:22,470 --> 00:58:20,640
that scratches on the walls and has this

1576
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:22,480
really big

1577
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:23,520
head

1578
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:26,079
like the watermelon uh people i don't

1579
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:26,880
know

1580
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:28,799
it doesn't really have a watermelon on

1581
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,559
its head but it's like this big like

1582
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,799
what do you call that like disease where

1583
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:34,960
you can it can make your

1584
00:58:37,750 --> 00:58:36,319
i forget but i'm just wondering if

1585
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:37,760
you've ever heard of that

1586
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:39,280
i've never worked with that i've heard

1587
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:40,559
okay

1588
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:47,670
that's the scariest i'm sorry

1589
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:54,309
stories have come out of ohio haven't

1590
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:55,040
you

1591
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:57,599
yes and i don't want them to be

1592
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:59,280
those hill people

1593
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:01,760
there's one called the watermelon baby

1594
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,359
specifically and it scratches on the

1595
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,040
walls

1596
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,119
no i'm not doing it i'm not dealing with

1597
00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:09,760
that are johnny on the spot there for us

1598
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:10,960
at

1599
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:12,880
the research team i'm not dealing with

1600
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:19,190
uh yeah a piece stated it showed up in

1601
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,160
my room and spit in my mouth

1602
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:24,640
and then touched its head to make sure

1603
00:59:30,250 --> 00:59:27,200
it was the fluke with my baby's son oh

1604
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:30,260
that's creepy peace

1605
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:36,870
i'm not doubting you but no i'm not

1606
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,000
either that's just really creepy

1607
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:42,079
i'm sorry that happened

1608
00:59:46,070 --> 00:59:44,559
yeah and

1609
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:46,080
what do you

1610
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:51,599
[Laughter]

1611
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,839
can we get someone to visit the mothman

1612
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,160
sliding location look for dna samples

1613
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:59,280
well encephalitis yes marla i don't know

1614
01:00:02,950 --> 01:00:00,880
how you're going to get on the airport

1615
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,960
property and do that for one thing

1616
01:00:06,710 --> 01:00:04,960
yeah you're not able to get on there i

1617
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:06,720
mean they see they're going to run you

1618
01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:07,520
out

1619
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,640
now we are lucky enough for manuel

1620
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,040
because he's a um

1621
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:15,920
he he uh he works for a trucking company

1622
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:18,480
and he actually dispatches

1623
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,200
drivers out to o'hara

1624
01:00:26,069 --> 01:00:24,000
and he has to go out there occasionally

1625
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:26,079
so he'll get out there i know he's going

1626
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:27,920
to the cemetery and doing some work

1627
01:00:33,349 --> 01:00:31,359
there in the next weeks or so but as far

1628
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,359
as getting dna

1629
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:34,960
that had to be something that would be

1630
01:00:39,270 --> 01:00:37,599
immediate you know you know say you saw

1631
01:00:41,829 --> 01:00:39,280
something fall off one of these things

1632
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,839
and collect it you could take its coffee

1633
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:43,920
cup that it left behind

1634
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,440
i should

1635
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:47,440
but i you know i haven't seen one girl

1636
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:50,079
when drinking coffee

1637
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:52,640
i watch too much csi

1638
01:00:57,589 --> 01:00:54,960
amy did you find any dna in those uh

1639
01:00:59,910 --> 01:00:57,599
those sasquatch nets nests that were out

1640
01:01:02,069 --> 01:00:59,920
there in the olympic project i didn't

1641
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:02,079
myself but they have

1642
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:03,440
they've collected

1643
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:06,079
um different samples and stuff the first

1644
01:01:08,789 --> 01:01:07,440
round that they sent in which is

1645
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:08,799
expensive to do

1646
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:10,319
they didn't come back with anything but

1647
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:13,680
we're still trying we're still trying

1648
01:01:16,870 --> 01:01:15,280
well we're going to wrap this up folks

1649
01:01:18,870 --> 01:01:16,880
and again i want to thank amy and

1650
01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:18,880
vincent for being on here with me i

1651
01:01:23,589 --> 01:01:21,040
really appreciate it i i like these 14

1652
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,599
friday nights so i get team members and

1653
01:01:28,150 --> 01:01:25,520
people that work with us to come on and

1654
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:28,160
talk about what we're doing and uh it's

1655
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,160
always interesting and much appreciated

1656
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:32,240
so you too i will talk to you soon and

1657
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:35,680
uh thanks again thank you bye everybody

1658
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,640
bye

1659
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:38,400
now uh if you have an unexplained

1660
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,839
encounter or sighting feel free to

1661
01:01:42,630 --> 01:01:41,040
contact me through the families of

1662
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:42,640
monsters blog site

1663
01:01:46,710 --> 01:01:45,040
and i once again thank amy boo and

1664
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,720
vincent richardson for joining me this

1665
01:01:50,069 --> 01:01:48,640
evening and now thanks to all of you

1666
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:50,079
each and all of you

1667
01:01:54,309 --> 01:01:52,319
for watching and chatting uh if you made

1668
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:54,319
a super chat donation it's truly

1669
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:55,520
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1670
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,440
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1671
01:02:02,230 --> 01:01:59,760
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1672
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and share now next week

1673
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:04,880
i have author deborah cobble on with me

1674
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,680
and uh her book is uh and it's i think

1675
01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,119
it's been out a bit

1676
01:02:14,870 --> 01:02:12,000
but it's it's titled extraordinary

1677
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:14,880
contact life beyond intruders

1678
01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:18,000
so that should be interesting um i don't

1679
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,319
know the exact content of the book and i

1680
01:02:23,109 --> 01:02:22,000
am going to read it

1681
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,119
and

1682
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:25,520
whatever is in there we will discuss so

1683
01:02:35,510 --> 01:02:28,000
until next week stay healthy have a safe

1684
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:38,310
so

1685
01:02:50,970 --> 01:03:16,020
[Applause]